Today, the anniversary of the fire that led to the death of 56 Bradford City and Lincoln fans, and the anniversary of the Ibrox Disaster, when 66 Rangers fans died in Glasgow, wasn't commemorated, and no-one tried to blame anyone for what were simply accidents in unsafe stadiums, that could only have been prevented with hindsight.
Bradford City supporter Mrs Elspeth Hogsthwick said: 'What's bloody point in goin' on and bloody on about it? Stadium were unsafe, people died, all stadiums were rebuilt, you don't catch us whinging on and on, year after year, about an accident.'
'And you don't catch us getting pop stars singing about it and 2 minute silences, and the endless bleating about what-ifs, that would be embarrassing.'
And in Govan, Jim Baxter, lifelong Rangers fan, also said: 'Not just one but two Ibrox disasters. Oh, let's hold big parades every year, and make out that our drunken violent fans had nothing to do with the accidents - of course they did, so did the police, so everyone learnt lessons from the tragedies.'
But in Liverpool, once a city with Europe's top team and players, thousands held a 'Remember Bradford and Ibrox' week, involving people wandering around crying and feeling sorry for themselves, for some reason, drinking too much and crying and fighting with each other, and then getting angry about what one Liverpool fan called 'life'.
Former Celtic and Liverpool star and Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish happened to be passing, as all the wailing and gnashing of teeth was going in Liverpool, and said: 'What's all the fuss about? Nobody in Bradford or Glasgow keeps going on about it, so why are they doing that here?'
'Though I heard that in Turin they hold memorial services every year for the 39 Juventus fans that died at the hands of Liverpool ones in Belgium in 1985. But these tragedies are all history now. Stop dwelling on it.'
In the background 'Whinging 'Cross The Mersey' and 'You'll Always Whinge Alone' by Gerry and the Pacemakers began playing.