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And it came to pass............

In the Age of Insanity that the people of the land called America, having lost their morals, their initiative, and their will to defend their liberties, chose as their Supreme Leader that person known as "The One."

He emerged from the vapors with a message that had no meaning; but He hypnotized the people telling them, "I am sent to save you." My lack of experience, my questionable ethics, my monstrous ego, and my association with evil doers are of no consequence. I shall save you with Hope and Change. Go, therefore, and proclaim throughout the land that he who proceeded me is evil, that he has defiled the nation, and that all he has built must be destroyed. And the people rejoiced, for even though they knew not what The One would do, he had promised that it was good; and they believed. And The One said " We live in the greatest country in the world. Help me change everything about it!"

And the people said, "Hallelujah! Change is good!"

Then He said, "We are going to tax the rich fat-cats." And the people said "Sock it to them!" "And redistribute their wealth." And the people said, "Show us the money!" And the he said, " redistribution of wealth is good for everybody.."

And Joe the plumber asked, " Are you kidding me? You're going to steal my money and give it to the deadbeats??" And The One ridiculed and taunted him, and Joe's personal records were hacked and publicized.

One lone reporter asked, "Isn't that Marxist policy?" And she was banished from the kingdom!

Then a citizen asked, "With no foreign relations experience and having zero military experience or knowledge, how will you deal with radical terrorists?" And The One said, "Simple. I shall sit with them and talk with them and show them how nice we really are; and they will forget that they ever wanted to kill us all!"

And the people said, "Hallelujah!! Rejoice to the One! We are safe at last, and we can beat our weapons into free cars for the people!"

Then The One said "I shall give 95% of you lower taxes." And one, lone voice said, "But 40% of us don't pay ANY taxes." So The One said, "Then I shall give you some of the taxes the fat-cats pay!"

And the people said, "Hallelujah! Show us the money!"

Then The One said, "I shall tax your Capital Gains when you sell our homes!" And the people yawned and the slumping housing market collapsed. And He said. "I shall mandate employer-funded health care for every worker and raise the minimum wage. And I shall give every person unlimited healthcare and medicine and transportation to the clinics."

And the people said, "Give me some of that!"

Then he said, "I shall penalize employers who ship jobs overseas."

And the people said, "Where's my rebate check?"

Then The One said, "I shall bankrupt the coal industry and electricity rates will skyrocket!" And the people chanted is coal is dirty, coal is evil, no more coal! But we don't care for that part about higher electric rates.

And so it came to pass....

The One said, "Not to worry. If your rebate isn't enough to cover your expenses, we shall bail you out. Just sign up with St.ACORN and your troubles will be over!"

Then He said, "Illegal immigrants feel scorned and slighted. Let's grant them amnesty, Social Security, free education, free lunches, free medical care, bi-lingual signs and guaranteed housing..." And the people said, "Hallelujah!" and they made him king!

And so it came to pass.......

Employers, facing spiraling costs and ever-higher taxes, raised their prices and laid off workers. Others simply gave up and went out of business and the economy sank like unto a rock dropped from a cliff.

The bank banking industry was destroyed. Manufacturing slowed to a crawl. And more of the people were without a means of support.

Then The One said, "I am the The One- The Messiah - and I'm here to save you! We shall just print more money so everyone will have enough!"

But our foreign trading partners said unto Him. "Wait a minute. Your dollar is not worth a pile of camel dung! You will have to pay more... And The One said, "Wait a minute. That is unfair!!"

And the world thrashed upon its breasts proclaiming, "Neither are these other idiotic programs you have embraced. Lo, you have become a Socialist state and a second-rate power. Now you shall play by our rules!"

And the people cried out....

"Alas, alas!! What have we done?" But yea verily, it was too late. The people set upon The One and spat upon him and stoned him, and his name was dung. And the once mighty nation was no more; and the once proud people were without sustenance or shelter or hope. And the Change The One had given them was as like unto a poison that had destroyed them and like a whirlwind of fire that consumed all that they had built.

And the people beat their chests in despair and cried out in anguish, "give us back our nation and our pride and our hope!!"

But it was too late, and their homeland was no more.

While I don't agree with your message, I do think you have a knack for getting your message across very well. Won't you consider coming over from the dark side, or at least meet some of us in the middle?

Millions of words of tax codes equal lots of loopholes for wealthy people to not pay taxes.

Eliminate income taxes, and simply charge 20% sales tax on everything but groceries.

There would be a lot of moaning and groaning, but that would redistribute wealth in a fair, helpful, meaningful way, balance the federal budget in a hurry, and eliminate our national debt in no more than a decade or so.

Right now, these same people are holding the American economy hostage until they get more business conservatives in office.

Yeah, I know, someone will say that's a crazy conspiracy, but don't doubt for an instant that a group of multi-billionaires acting in unison can invest in whatever they want, whenever they want, and exert their influence on the American economy, and thereby influence public opinion that supply-side economics actually works.

Birds of a tax bracket flock together.

Interesting reading.

U.S. Steel bought out the Candian Plant my husband worked at, just over a year ago.,....and immediately began to lay-off the majority of workers....some a year or two short of a 'full pension' decided to retire rather than 'sit around' wondering if the Plant would ever be up and running again - so now they receive a lower pension, as do other workers who made the same decision.

Aha! When they decided to 're-open' the plant...no-one who was still 'with' the company - was qualified to do my husband's job - so he was 'called back' - we don't know for how long,

Visting my 'home land'....England...I see Americans have bought out lots of businesses and my sister-in-law and her colleagues had to go for 'American training'...how to treat customers and interact with them....the American way.

McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Kentucky Fried Chicken etc. etc. are springing up all over England...even in beautiful old 'walled cities' with cobbled streets and tudor buildings where the Yellow Arches stick out like sore thumbs.

I think it's called 'progression'.

They celebrate Hallowe'en in England now. That's fairly recent. Also 'ball caps'....even SHORTS are now part of the working- and middle-class attire!

Many homeowners have decks out back (decking)..they put lights outside their homes at Christmas time...use the word 'GUYS' all the time and say 'You're welcome' and 'Have a nice day'.


One thing stays the same....most of the people I know over 'ome, still head to SPAIN for their holidays and some have even retired there....

Sorry, I got verbal diarrhea back there. The bee has flown out of my bonnet now. I probably went waaaaaaaaaaaay off topic....if every I was ON TOPIC.

Incidentally, some of my closest friends are American!

Lady G.

Strangely enough, I am about to agree (mostly) with SFO.

I've believed in the flat tax for many years. Charge everyone 15% tax on their income. This will hit everyone in every economic class the exact, same way. Make all benefits received by the rich as taxable income (so they can't hide purchases of mansions for themselves by their businesses).

Do this and you cut the IRS in half (instead of doubling the size of the organization, as Obama has started doing).

I agree with the above experts as I don't know much at all about American policies regarding anything - yet!

LG

Definitely sounds like a better plan for all. It's too straightforward. Maybe that's what throws the lawmakers off.

Charpa

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Quote: Throckmorton Turdblossom

Strangely enough, I am about to agree (mostly) with SFO.

I've believed in the flat tax for many years. Charge everyone 15% tax on their income. This will hit everyone in every economic class the exact, same way. Make all benefits received by the rich as taxable income (so they can't hide purchases of mansions for themselves by their businesses).

Do this and you cut the IRS in half (instead of doubling the size of the organization, as Obama has started doing).

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