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A challenge to pen some dub poetry.
I suspect there would be some good entries.

wance upon a time
jus like inna nursery rhyme
before piggy tun swine

mi did wear
mi fear
pan mi face
like a shiel
like a mask

an everybady tink mi cool an deadly

Before I pen some....what does 'dub' mean please?

A dub is a pool in our dialect.

But here it's

Dub

Proper reggae dub is marvellous. Not so sure about the more recent uses of the term.

Dub, is reggae music that an MC "Toasts" (talks over).
The very thing that Vic is asking us to do.

IF YA NO GO DRED
YA GO DEAD
IF YA NO GO DED
YA GO DRED
DRED AM DED
DED AM DRED
TO BLOUSE AN SKIRT
MI GO TO I AN I BED.

Looks like lynton kwesi gonna hav ta git out de drums

I red it arl
Me wid it now
Me tinks a am
Arl tries it man

Not just that. Doesn't have to include toasting.

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Quote: armfeetandtoe

Dub, is reggae music that an MC "Toasts" (talks over).
The very thing that Vic is asking us to do.

IF YA NO GO DRED
YA GO DEAD
IF YA NO GO DED
YA GO DRED
DRED AM DED
DED AM DRED
TO BLOUSE AN SKIRT
MI GO TO I AN I BED.

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I thought Arm had it right, good example too, though I think we will have to skip the music in this case.

Television preachers from Africa and the Carribean sound similar to me, I was hoping for a big heap of silly.

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Quote: victor nicholas

I thought Arm had it right, good example too, though I think we will have to skip the music in this case.

Television preachers from Africa and the Carribean sound similar to me, I was hoping for a big heap of silly.

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....can we stick with Newfie jokes...I can get those!

Morsie

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Quote: victor nicholas

I thought Arm had it right, good example too, though I think we will have to skip the music in this case.

Television preachers from Africa and the Carribean sound similar to me, I was hoping for a big heap of silly.

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Heap of silly it will be Vic although back in the day linton kwesi johnson dub poet and spouter of Marxist claptrap was very serious about it


he would say 'Dub It noh funny'

By far his best ever was Hurricane blues

Sorry Victor, Why do I take it so seriously?

Anyway mate, here's another.

I AN I GOT A PATI
I AN I KEEP IT IN MI ATTY
BUT DAWNT ASK MI FE A BITE!


Love Light & Peace

Arm

Arm

Good work,

I think you got the feel for this kind of stuff.

Lynton, good links to Linton!

Here is Linton speaking Dub.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-YIUbCDXgc&feature=related

Morse

If you listen to Linton it can easily be Newfie, bye, just throw some codfish and lobsters in, I think you know the routine. Newfie rap.

That would be a great dub poem.

Game on.


Victor

Thing is and ironic it is too is that LKJ actually puts on his accent! He speaks normally like we all do.

Also our rapper friends think what they have, they invented!!

I think Gil Scott-Heron was earlier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2StEWupdWlQ&feature=related

Mi Dog Isa Bitch

Mi dog isa bitch
Sins I teach to play fetch
Alluz runnin way 2 much
Mi dog isa bitch
I teach it to be jumpin
It spen all day humpin, humpin

Somethun

Mi dog isa bitch
Mi dog always workin guarding
Guardin, guardin
No time for partyin
Mi dog isa bitch
Even tho we's in poverty
Mi dog give us jollity

Well I suppose for that matter the talking blues could be classed a s dub too but in a different style and that was earlier still

Gil Scott heron seems to have sold out a bit to the jazz genre and unlike a lot of dub poets he can sing - I sort of class the universality and popularity of the dub style as being because anyone can do it if they have rhythm as poets do but cant actually sing or hold a note.

It blends into all sorts of genres such as performance poetry which is similar but without the music but does rely very much on rhythm, assonance and the alliterative quality and choice of words.

If we could agree on a definition vic it would help immensely and if we widen it a bit it could embrace more people who feel less confident with the current stuff - such as Lady G.

We should also try not to make it too much of a piss-take either becasue it could be seen as being deliberately racist - not that I care I'm a great fan of Ali G and he does a double Lampoon of white and black.

Oh and Vic I'm going to try not to skip the music - I'm working on it

Exhausted - time for bed

By the way by way of illustration

a talking blues worth listening to

I can't believe that you guys have heard of Gil Scott Heron!

Fuck me, it's a small world.

Some of my favourites:

'Home Is Where The Hatred Is'

'Lady Day And John Coltraine'

'In The Bottle'

Bloody hell...I'm gobsmacked....for once...

Circle up the wagons to defend yourselves against nuclear attack.

Fucking hell....

Regards, in shock and awe

Skoob.

Skoob

They say he has some demons, this looks like some

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OET8SVAGELA

Lynton

No need to define things too much, whatever floats your boat, these things are better when they move laterally sometimes.

Victor

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Quote: Lynton

Well I suppose for that matter the talking blues could be classed a s dub too but in a different style and that was earlier still

Gil Scott heron seems to have sold out a bit to the jazz genre and unlike a lot of dub poets he can sing - I sort of class the universality and popularity of the dub style as being because anyone can do it if they have rhythm as poets do but cant actually sing or hold a note.

It blends into all sorts of genres such as performance poetry which is similar but without the music but does rely very much on rhythm, assonance and the alliterative quality and choice of words.

If we could agree on a definition vic it would help immensely and if we widen it a bit it could embrace more people who feel less confident with the current stuff - such as Lady G.

We should also try not to make it too much of a piss-take either becasue it could be seen as being deliberately racist - not that I care I'm a great fan of Ali G and he does a double Lampoon of white and black.

Oh and Vic I'm going to try not to skip the music - I'm working on it

Exhausted - time for bed

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This is nothing like Dublin poetry! Not a "Jaysus" or "Howaya head?" in any of the posts.

Load a bollix!

Fergus

Are ya Dub'lin or Dub'lin out?

Well, I am only slightly awake, it's 8:32 am here and I didn't sleep well.

Thanks Lynton:

Listening to the talking blues set me thinking about the Canadian soldiers I met in 'hospital' last year after they had experienced Afghanistan. PTSD is rampant. I only met the soldiers who sought help. There must be hundreds more than are 'shown' in statistics.

Back to the topic...I can't compete with the 'dubbers' but would really like a poetry/rhyming thread....Poems could be serious - on topics close to our hearts - or 'silly' to lighten our hearts.

Don't tell me we all are not 'suffering' in some shape or form!!! We are all HERE aren't we?????

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Quote: Lady Godiva

Well, I am only slightly awake, it's 8:32 am here and I didn't sleep well.

Thanks Lynton:

Listening to the talking blues set me thinking about the Canadian soldiers I met in 'hospital' last year after they had experienced Afghanistan. PTSD is rampant. I only met the soldiers who sought help. There must be hundreds more than are 'shown' in statistics.

Back to the topic...I can't compete with the 'dubbers' but would really like a poetry/rhyming thread....Poems could be serious - on topics close to our hearts - or 'silly' to lighten our hearts.

Don't tell me we all are not 'suffering' in some shape or form!!! We are all HERE aren't we?????

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Well start one then LG go on be a (she)devil - how about doing one line and then getting others to do the next and so on and see where it leads