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SPECTRUM
Writer Location: In a place Far Far away Registered: 10 Jul 09 Forum Profile Writer's Profile |
The First World War was called the War to end all wars because
all the major nations of the world got together and signed The Kelloch Briand Treaty a law which was to become the main law in International War Crime as it clearly states that any country that engages in war is guilty of International War Law. The Nazis were convicted after the second world war for violating this very treaty and this was the very treaty they were convicted of under International War Law. Despite the fact that certain World super powers have signed this treaty they continue to ignore it. They are all guilty of International War Crime for every war they have been involved in since they signed The Kelloch Briand Treaty. Bush And Blair are War Criminals responsible for the deaths of millions of people and they will one day be held accountable for their actions. |
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Jean Le Fete
Deanalope Location: Mid No Where Registered: 14 May 07 Forum Profile Writer's Profile |
Bush and his poodle Blair (according to my sources)are now vacationing together in Port Au Prince Haiti, taking advantage of the cheap rates and great free food and shelter....
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Seanachie
Banned |
Of course that 'Treaty' certainly didn't apply to the terrorist who murdered hundreds over Lockerbie and on the ground in Scotland. Of course it couldn't have. After all it was so 'humane' to send this 'dying' man back to his home to a hero's welcome. He must'ave been considered a Saint. And now in the U.S.....terrorists take cover under Obama's new interpretation of American Law to treat them as common criminals with 'rights' as did Britain with the IRA who will never enjoy those 'rights' provided in our Constitution. That sure worked out well. Didn't it?
And...of course...we....the unenlightened one's still believe that those who commit evil acts of murder get put to the ultimate penalty of death. The Lockerbie Bomber is the poster child for the death penalty and retro-active abortion. When a Nation decides that it is more humane to release this evil....well...I'm sure people of sober minds take note and act accordingly despite those who were born with bleeding hearts... Geesh! What clap-trap is this 'enlightened' insight into what makes people tick (no pun intended). Tim McVeigh was put to death for his evil act in the Oklahoma City bombing. He will never have the opportunity to hatch another plan. Justice, 'American Style'! Bush acted accordingly and so did Blair amongst many others who had the guts and foresight to see evil for what it was and still is. Be well, Jim PS: The Treaty is known as the Kellogg-Briand Pact or as the Pact of Paris. It was signed In Paris on August 27, 1928 by fifteen countries. |
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Richard DagNabbit
Writer Location: Sand Bar in the Pacific Ocean Registered: 3 Dec 09 Forum Profile Writer's Profile |
GOP Activist Alert. Double Red Alert.
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Seanachie
Banned |
Not quite! A Tea Party Activist for sure. And not to be confused at all with the Teabaggers movement which is meant in a 'Gay Way'. At least your 'Red Alerts' are somewhat comical. That used to refer to Communists. Yep the 'Red Alerts' are up all over the U.S. Last in Massachusetts. Thanks for the compliment in any event and the 'Red' stuff. I'm sure we in the U.S. know exactly what that means. Or so Joe McCarthy deemed it so... Thanks for the laugh, Jim |
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Morse
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....somebody better be alert or we'll be toast, albeit politically correct! |
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Bargis Tryhol
The Tripod |
So SPECTRUM please tell us what contributions and sacrifices you've personally made to keep the world free, to fight terrorists, and to protect the lives of your fellow citizens? Or are you just another 20-something with absolutely zero political knowledge except from what you read in illustrated comic books? |
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Jalapenoman
Spicy Hombre |
Three cheers for Seanachie. Thanks for standing up to the troll.
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Skoob1999
Caretaker Location: Out on a limb Registered: 5 Sep 08 Forum Profile Writer's Profile |
I'll second that.
I come here to laugh, not to read profoundly flawed opinions. Pointless and immature. A Spoof would be much more effective. Skoob. |
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Bargis Tryhol
The Tripod |
Agree on that! |
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Philbert of Macadamia
Historical nutcase Location: Pizmo Beach, Pennsyltucky Registered: 20 May 08 Forum Profile Writer's Profile |
Skoob:
Thank you.
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victor nicholas
Doc Location: Suwanee River Registered: 20 Apr 08 Forum Profile Writer's Profile |
Not sure why you're telling us this SPECTRUM.
Puzzled. Victor
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Seanachie
Banned |
On the 'off' chance the OP didn't take the time to read the quoted 'Treaty'; I include the synopsis quoted below. The 'Treaty' itself is worth the reading if anyone chooses to Google it for the entire text and the signatories to it. I read it and found the synopsis from the source below to be apropos. US History Encyclopedia: Kellogg-Briand Pact Top Home > Library > History, Politics & Society > US History Encyclopedia Kellogg-Briand Pact (also called the Pact of Paris), signed 27 August 1928 by 15 nations, reflected the movement to outlaw war to prevent a recurrence of the carnage of World War I. French foreign minister Aristide Briand initially proposed a bilateral treaty renouncing war as a method of settling disputes between France and the United States and drawing the United States into its defensive system against Germany. U.S. support for the pact came from both ends of the political spectrum. Interventionists thought it would lead to U.S. acceptance of the League of Nations; isolationists and peace groups hoped it would end war. Charles Lindbergh's successful solo crossing of the Atlantic and subsequent landing in Paris in May 1927 also helped boost Briand's efforts. Secretary of State Frank Kellogg, fearful that signing the treaty could drag the United States into a European war on the side of France, expanded the proposed agreement to a multilateral treaty renouncing war. Briand had no choice but to accept the pact, which was moral in tone but lacked force and did not bind America to any European treaty system. Subsequently, when Japan seized Manchuria in 1931, when Italy took over Ethiopia in 1935, and later when Germany began its expansion in the late 1930s, the Pact was exposed as the toothless treaty it had been all along. Bibliography Ferrell, Robert H. Peace in Their Time: The Origins of the Kellogg-Briand Pact. New Haven, Conn.: Yale University Press, 1952. Be well All, Jim |
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Seanachie
Banned |
My apology for not putting the link to the 'Treaty' quoted by the OP. Unfortunately, I don't have a quarter for the clue bus in putting the link into an embedded form. You'll have to do the cut and paste thing if you so choose...
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/kbpact.asp#art1 Again, my humble apology. Be well All, Jim |
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Richard DagNabbit
Writer Location: Sand Bar in the Pacific Ocean Registered: 3 Dec 09 Forum Profile Writer's Profile |
We had a Terrorist scare right here in one of our local supermarkets. A scary Iranian man was cruising around the store with a masked woman "scaring the daylight" out of one of our local white women. She headed right for Mr. Wayne who picked up the Bat Phone and summoned Batman to the scene. The Cape Crusader escorted the Terrorist and his Female Bomb -to Be right out of the store and off the market property. Made quite a scene of it. Damn Good Riddens.
Lawsuit for $ 25,000,000 now in progress. Settlement expected. Law Enforcement Protective & Indignant, scratch that, I mean Salutive & Repugnant..well at any rate the masked woman had none other than..........her sleeping baby under the garb. Yet another Double Red Alert Avoided. More Spoofs Needed. Far More |
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Seanachie
Banned |
The title of this Spoof Story I wrote is:
Beijing Ballet Barracks Suggested In International Detente Move. I learned a very valuable lesson in whom not to spoof; Namely: A District Attorney and Police Authorities. Attaching a spoof story (well before I came here) to a 'Private Criminal Complaint' via an e-mail I sent to my Sister....well....it wasn't the wisest way to go. But screw um if they can't take a joke! The 'Fort Dix Five' trained a few miles from where I live. 4 are doing life in prison, the 5th 30 years. I'm glad someone had a Bat-Phone.......could ya see if that store's Mr. Wayne could send it our way? You're quite right.....more spoofing needed! Be well, Jim |
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victor nicholas
Doc Location: Suwanee River Registered: 20 Apr 08 Forum Profile Writer's Profile |
Does someone here have a good recipe for a cheese steak?
I've been to Pat's but think eye of round is superior. |
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Seanachie
Banned |
I wish I could tell ya the 'secret' ingredient for a Philly Cheesesteak. I'm sworn to omerta silence and those Philly Gangsters would make me as dead as the meat they serve up.
So Sorry, Jim |
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victor nicholas
Doc Location: Suwanee River Registered: 20 Apr 08 Forum Profile Writer's Profile |
We don't have amorosa rolls here so I use baguettes, my friend from Philly does the same.
I use eye of round, no spices, a baguette and Whiz. |
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Seanachie
Banned |
The 'secret' is definitely in the Whiz. Can't say no more!
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Bargis Tryhol
The Tripod |
Nothing satisfies a hunger crave like a Philly Cheese!
Should be one of our national dishes up there with a cheeseburger, BBQ, Tex-Mex, fries, Buffalo wings, Crab cakes, fried fish sandwiches, Raw Oysters, New York Style pizza.......Don't get me started on Chicago deep dish! |
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Lynton
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Sorry SPECTRUM it's not that simple (would that it were).
The Paris pact or Kellogg-Briand pact of which this speaks prohibited the use of war as an instrument of national policy. Its formal name is General Treaty for the Renunciation of War. It prevented nothing. Perhaps this is because humans only evolved to participate effectively in small social groups rather than Nations and that is why we have Politics which should help to make things "possible". We also have "law", which far from being an absolute is relative and open to interpretation and change. These exist because perfection/paradise do not exist (and anyway would be about as boring as an unending Sunday afternoon). It is relatively easy to prosecute Balkan War Criminals. However, although I do not agree with Blair I can see his point when he said that the question being asked at any inquiry would be why didn't we get rid rather than why did we, if in fact Saddam had been left in place and ended up using WMD. The result would have been a mess either way because that is the nature of the Middle East and the nature of human beings. We are well rid of Saddam, WMD or no. We can question our PM's approach to sexing up the evidence. We can and should question the death of Dr. David Kelly. We can question the lack of a second UN resolution too, but, since when did the UN ever solve anything? We can also question the lack of preparation for the aftermath and the lamentable lack of historical awareness of the average politician. The invasion of Iraq was not a matter of National Policy exactly, although it was convenient. The Chilcott Committee will not ask the questions we want because it is only there to produce recommendations. These we should not underestimate because hopefully they will contribute greatly to the end of the runaway form of non-consultatory Government practised by Blair et al. and envied by other politicians. Politics will always work this way. We can live with it and use this site to make our points. Good for us! When others start interfering with our right to do this then we should really get worried. Now Mr. SPECTRUM I would be grateful to hear you ideas for solving the problems posed by Iran, Afghanistan, and the the threats to Pakistan and Middle Eastern security and while you are at it the Israel/Palestine conflict.
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Philbert of Macadamia
Historical nutcase Location: Pizmo Beach, Pennsyltucky Registered: 20 May 08 Forum Profile Writer's Profile |
Seanachie:
Please forgive me, but I love Philly Cheesesteak with the sliced melted cheese, rather than whiz. Other than that I agree this is a taste treat. Seems Phily citizens also seem to be split on the cheese topping. Love all the pretzels.
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Jalapenoman
Spicy Hombre |
Philly cheese steak....bell peppers, onions, cheese, and meat.
Only the california tofu farting fairy types ruin it with other stuff (mushrooms, bean sprouts, lettuce...). Nope, give me the real thing with just the basics. It's a sandwich that doesn't even need mustard or mayo. Yes, I'm hungry now. Thanks a lot. (As to the cheese discussion....I prefer mine with sliced Provolone) |
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Bargis Tryhol
The Tripod |
Nuff said on that score! Philly cheese.........Man food! |
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