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Bollocks are nothing. Bollocks do not exist. I do not believe in bollocks.


If I repeat the above 125 times, will all the bollocky, bollocking, bollocks disappear (my bloody question mark has done a runner again. Bollocks!)

Edit: I meant Bullocks - sorry about the typo!

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Quote: Lady Godiva

Bollocks are nothing. Bollocks do not exist. I do not believe in bollocks.


If I repeat the above 125 times, will all the bollocky, bollocking, bollocks disappear (my bloody question mark has done a runner again. Bollocks!)

Edit: I meant Bullocks - sorry about the typo!

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LG what language for a lady of a certqain age and a SuBo fan at that.

If you had an inguinal hernia you would believe in them (or at least one of them) with exquisite clarity I'll tell you!! Anyhow, this sexist swearing is very bad why don't we just say 'Ovaries!' to the lot of it?

Have you ever noticed that so-called serious discussions always become ludicrous?

Maybe that's because there is no 'answer'. And the joke's on those who think there is.

"In the end you've got to laugh." - A Hyena

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Quote: victor nicholas

Back to the serious side,

I don't buy the idea of a big bang start to it all, it's too linear in human terms and denies the concept of conservation of matter/energy.

Why not consider a big collision instead of a singularity for the creation of our universe as part of a a constant ebb and flow overall of matter and energy.

But that is just my theory of of how creamsicles are made.

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I prefer frozen crunch bars. They reflect the cylical, two-sided nature of the universe quite well.

Maybe you missed it when I mentioned the "big crunch" earlier in this thread.

For every big bang, there is a big crunch.

For every crunch bar, there is a turd that nourishes the earth to grow grass to feed cows so you can have another one later.

The proof is in the nuts - ruminate on that.

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Quote: Erskin Quint

Have you ever noticed that so-called serious discussions always become ludicrous?

Maybe that's because there is no 'answer'. And the joke's on those who think there is.

"In the end you've got to laugh." - A Hyena

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Probably psychological - those who attempt to be serious render themselves vulnerable

Those who react with flippancy may well be troubled by the serious questions but embarrassed or lacking the self confidence to put forward an opinion.

Why shouldn't we provoke serious thought - I pretend no answers but I am quite prepared, if I have thought about something, to put forward an opinion and alow it to be shot down in flames if needs be - I don't mind learning and I dont think you do either EK. The spoof is about making sense of the world as is much humour.

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Quote: The San Francisco Onion


I prefer frozen crunch bars. They reflect the cylical, two-sided nature of the universe quite well.

Maybe you missed it when I mentioned the "big crunch" earlier in this thread.

For every big bang, there is a big crunch.

For every crunch bar, there is a turd that nourishes the earth to grow grass to feed cows so you can have another one later.

The proof is in the nuts - ruminate on that.

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This reminds me of the arguement between Shrek and Donkey regarding onions and parfaits.

Cards on the table - I don't believe in god or an afterlife. I have just proved it by not writing god with a capital 'g'.

Gods are 'man-made' by people who need something to save them from going insane trying to figure out the 'meaning of life'. God only gets a capital letter when that word is at the beginning of a sentence.

There is no meaning of life. We just ARE!


Why do people keep searching for the 'far end of a fart' when they could be spending more time having fun?

Just think, if that ONE sperm hadn't wiggled it's way up that 'canal' and made it to the egg, we wouldn't even exist. ANY OF US...

Now THAT's worth a few moments of discussion don't you think"

If my best friend hadn't had 2 miscarriages, she wouldn't have the two sons she now has. They just 'wouldn't exist' there would be two other people on earth doing different things. They might even have been girls.

Just think. If Obama's dad's sperm handn't reached his mother's egg....you'd all be spoofing about a totally different person.....IF any of you existed.

Am I going too fast for you???

Of course Lynton.

Just poking a little bit of fun at those who would attempt to tie the world up in intellectual theories.

They're vital for survival, engineering etc etc.

But dangerous if used beyond their proper realm.

That's where spirituality could come in, if it weren't distorted by the politics of organised religion's popular machinations.

You see, when you type something like that, you immediately want to throw in a joke!

EQ

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Quote: Lynton

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Quote: Erskin Quint

Have you ever noticed that so-called serious discussions always become ludicrous?

Maybe that's because there is no 'answer'. And the joke's on those who think there is.

"In the end you've got to laugh." - A Hyena

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Probably psychological - those who attempt to be serious render themselves vulnerable

Those who react with flippancy may well be troubled by the serious questions but embarrassed or lacking the self confidence to put forward an opinion.

Why shouldn't we provoke serious thought - I pretend no answers but I am quite prepared, if I have thought about something, to put forward an opinion and alow it to be shot down in flames if needs be - I don't mind learning and I dont think you do either EK. The spoof is about making sense of the world as is much humour.

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Quote: Lady Godiva

Cards on the table - I don't believe in god or an afterlife. I have just proved it by not writing god with a capital 'g'.

Just think, if that ONE sperm hadn't wiggled it's way up that 'canal' and made it to the egg, we wouldn't even exist. ANY OF US...

Now THAT's worth a few moments of discussion don't you think"

Am I going too fast for you???

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Lady Godiva,

I am going to agree to respectfully disagree with you. Athiesm is your right, as monothiesm is mine.

However, let me ask you one question: If you were to die tomorrow and "wake up" in a Spirit World/Heaven/Paradise/Hell/ or whatever you want to call it, how would you react? Would this be an "oh shit" moment for you?

I ask because I once wrote a story on Madalyn Murray O'Hare (a famous athiest in the U.S.) having such a moment.

As far as your belief that there is no diety, do you think and feel this way because of some event in your life? because of your upbringing? because of discussions with others in a school or educational setting? because of a "if there was a God, he wouldn't allow this to happen" experience?

I'm always interested to understand what brings people to a denial of the existence of a Supreme Being.

I think I'll just buy the duck....

No...no major event...unless you count going to the church behind where I grew up....kneeling down with the vicar...as I questioned the existence of god YET AGAIN...at 16 yrs. of age.....feeling no better after kneeling with the vicar listening to him 'twitter on' to goodness knows who....questioning...as I left the church...why the hell I had ended up there anyway during one of my 'panic attacks'.

If I did end up waking up in a heaven (for people do tell me that only evil people go to hell) after I'd died...I guess I would just (hypothetically speaking) say...

"Well who'd have believed it? At least I put more into MY life than you lot did whilst you were on bended knees praying....praying for what I GOT anyway....

Either way you look at it....I WIN!

I'm not a bad person. Just one who is trying to get through this one life I have, as painlessly as possible and to do the best I can for everyone I meet. No harm in that is there?

Lots more to do before I 'go'!

BTW I've heard Madalyn and what she had to say. I've not heard or read a lot about her, but Googled her and ascertained that she is the atheist you named, who I'd remembered.

Oh! I also read that Mother Theresa began to question - and doubt - her faith before SHE died - Opposite of Madalyn.

I shall pass through this world but once.
If there is any good deed that I can do for any fellow creature,
Let me do it now.
Let me not defer nor neglect it
For I shall not pass this way again.


Anon

THESE ARE THE WORDS I LIVE BY

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Quote: Lady Godiva

There is no meaning of life. We just ARE!

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I strongly disagree.

Never being able to move past a colonizing phase and into a climactic phase is the sign of a very feeble-minded species.

We have all the information we need to assure the human race survives far into the future. The challenge is to get past the lies, implement the truth, and get everyone on board.

People don't like that because they just want to be, and that means having fun, and having fun usually means doing what you want, having lots of stuff, eating what you want, etc., and everybody says the church just wants you to feel guilty for having fun, just being, and doing whatever feels good.

Guess what? I'm here to tell you pretty much the same thing, if your idea of having fun involves greater and greater amounts of matter and energy being changed from one form to the other to support your lifestyle.

Being involves eating, which necessarily involves energy use.

Anything else you do that involves energy use is a personal choice, and the combined total of billions of those choices is beginning to bite us all in the arse, even those unfortunate ones who don't get enough to eat in the first place.

Want a meaning of life? The more your decisions affect the whole of humanity in a negative way as per the rules of science, chemistry and physics, the more of a bastard you are.

You can't create wealth without also creating poverty.

When you create wealth anyway, you can't expect endless economic expansion on a finite planet's surface without a significant contraction at some point. Same goes for population.

Greed will eventually kill us all.

Ignorance is no excuse.

Have a sixth child, buy a bigger car, and order another cheeseburger if you like.

That's your choice, but you shouldn't do it.

There's your meaning of life.

Make the right decisions, and you've helped ensure the survival of your species.

god would be proud.

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Quote: Throckmorton Turdblossom

I'm always interested to understand what brings people to a denial of the existence of a Supreme Being.

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Logic, for me.

Lets use Christianity as an example. If God is all-powerful, all-knowing and everywhere, that means He already knew before He created us that many of us were going to make bad choices and go to Hell.

That would imply some of us were doomed before we were even born, surely not the act of a God of Love who wanted to give us free will.

Furthermore, if God was a God of Love, he wouldn't have put wealthy, powerful conservatives here to help ensure many of us are doomed before we're even born, not to mention hawkish, religious conservatives like the Taliban.

Fortunately, if the Christians are right, it's the poor, meek people that got trampled in this lifetime who get to go to heaven, not the high-end go-forth-and-multiply baby factories who drive their SUV's to church every Sunday and visit with people in their tax bracket about how they shoved a camel through the eye of a needle last week.

I'm just poor, not meek ...

I'm always interested to understand why people think a Supreme Being has to resemble a human being in some sort of way.

What's so hard about accepting the universe itself as a "supreme being" and the laws that govern her, her cycles of life and death, as words to live by?

Global warming is telling us this must be so.

So is the blossom growing in your turd, Throckmorton.

YET ANOTHER MAN WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND ME.

I GIVE UP! I TRULY DO. FOR TONIGHT AT LEAST.

I don't know all the big words, but I am fine and content with my own philosophy.

I really don't care what others think. I'm just happy for others if THEY are happy.

Mind you many of the 'so called religious people' I know and listen to, seem to me to be very anxious and constantly looking for 'something' to prove they are on the right track.

Many are looking and 'waiting' for miracles. My Born Again Christian friend is waiting for a miracle as he has cancer.

Hey! I prayed for him - I truly did because HE believes and it meant a lot to him to have me pray for him, even though I thought it was pointless.

I DO hope he beats cancer. He'll put it down to God's divine intervention. I'll put it down to, medical intervention and, well, 'one of those things' and I will be very happy for him and his family.

Whereas I am very happy and contented with my own thoughts on the subject. It took me 34 years to get here....well subtract 7 years because that's how old I was when I began to 'question it all' and 34 when I found 'peace'

So I've been 'at peace' since I was 34 and I'm now 61, do the math, and no longer fear death or question the meaning of life.

Not many 'religious' or 'people of faith' have that same peace when I enter into discussions with them, which I very rarely do these days. What's the point. My nana told me, many years ago - 'Just nod your head and agree when you are in a 'one-sided' discussion. It's much easier on you in the longrun.'

Wise woman and wise words, but I still get drawn into these 'discussions' from time to time.

Stalemate!

Wow. I've spent the last 45 minutes or so getting caught up with this thread -- a thread that I had no idea existed until, well, about an 45 minutes ago, lol.

Great last post, LG. Nice to see a like mind posting on a forum, lol! Kinda took the wind out of my sails though as I was prepared to interject a bit of off-hand, relative humor into this otherwise 10-page, tangential conversation.

Perhaps in the next post I will do just that. But not before paying my due respects to especially your latest post.

Beautiful, Lg, just beautiful.

*****

With that said, I regret that I must direct my next post back to the original question, but I must....

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Quote: armfeetandtoe

Is there a God, and if so, who cuts his beard?
I was thinking about this last night, and the answer is a bit of a double edged sword. Nowhere in the bible does it refer to a holy barber, so who does the trimming?

Answers from devil worshippers welcome.



Arm

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That is a very good question. Does the Lord trim his beard with a double edged sword, or, does he not? This is an interesting question.

So, assuming the Lord exists, thus his beard, and given their preferences for follicular abodes, why has the Lord shared his cootie infestation with these innocent children?

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Quote: Philbert of Macadamia

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Quote: Jesus Budda

SFO, nothing exists.

And nothing DOESN'T exist.

And the great thing about it is that you CAN and CANNOT prove it!


There is no 'GOD' and there IS a 'GOD'.

Everyone wins. And loses.
It's a great thing indeed.

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JB:

You have achieved Nirvana.

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Actually, you are all merely following The Way of Harry as I have suggested several times before.

Congratulations to everyone who participated on this thread. You are all apparently Harriers - though not yet ultra-Harriers.

Anyway, it's good to have you all on board.

Anyone for consolation?

We can use Ockham's razor to cut it, funwithwords and armfeetandtoe, if you're not too busy.

Being that it is late, very late, I shall humbly defer unto ArmFeetandToe, SFO.

'Tis his/her thread anyway. Thus, I am positive the Lord our God is patiently awaiting his/her response more than anyone else's here -- and especially since AFT is the one who so pompously chose to open this can of heavenly cooties in the first place.

Perhaps an offering of Old Spice will aid in alleviating the Lord's certain anger, though I can't be certain.

However, my suspicions are that AFT must act, and must act quickly in accordance with the Lord's wishes. No one wants a cootie infestation, not even AFT.

That's all I know....

FWW 'kindred spirit' thanks for the comments.... I loved the Cootie clip. I just hope all non-Americans and non-Canadians know, by now, what 'Cooties' acutally are!!

I got carried away looking at the Adam and Eve video clips which were an off-shoot of the Cooties clip.

Hey! I didn't get an invite to the SFO's Party...

Aah well! Does the SFO really exist or is he/she merely a fig- leaf of my imagination?

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Quote: The San Francisco Onion

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Quote: Philbert of Macadamia

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Quote: Jesus Budda

SFO, nothing exists.

And nothing DOESN'T exist.

And the great thing about it is that you CAN and CANNOT prove it!


There is no 'GOD' and there IS a 'GOD'.

Everyone wins. And loses.
It's a great thing indeed.

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JB:

You have achieved Nirvana.

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Actually, you are all merely following The Way of Harry as I have suggested several times before.

Congratulations to everyone who participated on this thread. You are all apparently Harriers - though not yet ultra-Harriers.

Anyway, it's good to have you all on board.

Anyone for consolation?

We can use Ockham's razor to cut it, funwithwords and armfeetandtoe, if you're not too busy.

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SFO I can see how one might easily upset one's compatriots now, keep up the good work

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Quote: Lynton

SFO I can see how one might easily upset one's compatriots now, keep up the good work

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If anyone has said anything to anyone in this thread that isn't in this book, I'll eat your hat.

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Quote: The San Francisco Onion

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Quote: Lynton

SFO I can see how one might easily upset one's compatriots now, keep up the good work

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If anyone has said anything to anyone in this thread that isn't in this book, I'll eat your hat.

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Some truths are universal particularly for those of a certain age that's why it strikes a chord because we live with the disappointment of the difference between our aspirations and reality - but I still think there might quite a few of your compatriots willing to gun Laird down for some of what he says and that's why he like you can't be a bad bloke - I hadn't come across the book before you pointed it out.

I got a book-token for Mothers' Day...now I know what to buy with it.....

I've just finished reading parts of The Boomber Bible online.

Looks like 'a good read'.

Have all the theories and explanations been exhausted on this thread, I hope so.
Lady Godiva hit a nerve with me when she mentioned the immense odds of any one of us being here at all.
Rejoice in the fact that we are alive.
Thinking of impondrables is fine as a mental excercise but everything will fade away eventually.
The truth of existance can become depressing if you think about it too long, so I tend to lock it away and think about it only occasionally.
My main preocupation is the survival of myself and my loved ones. Hey! I didn't say I was a hero!