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Apparently this group of half-wit, incompetent mission specialists, and assasins can't seem to do anything right.

Guardian Article on the Raid

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Quote: P.M. Wortham

Apparently this group of half-wit, incompetent mission specialists, and assasins can't seem to do anything right.

Guardian Article on the Raid

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a good trained seal can always find a fish out of water....

Quaddaffy is probably suffering from the runs right now.......

As the Doorman at the Oasis once said to the crowd on in the queue during a packed house, "NEXT!"

Hoorah Seals and all USA military personnel!

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Quote: Morse
a good trained seal can always find a fish out of water....

Quaddaffy is probably suffering from the runs right now.......

As the Doorman at the Oasis once said to the crowd on in the queue during a packed house, "NEXT!"

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Sorry Cap. Just felt like the boys were a little unappreciated and I drifted off into sarcasm land, but I'm all better now. Lithium and all.

In the more appropriate and happy words of Judge Smales...
"How 'bout a Fresca!"

I read this morning that some Americans are confused as to why people in Europe weren't out celebrating in the streets.

I can't really explain that, it just didn't seem like the thing to do, but I can assure you that millions of Europeans are quietly satisfied that your guys got Osama.

Perhaps people are worried about retaliation from Al Qaeda.

Another thing I heard is that in some quarters this event has been described as a cold blooded execution. Some say that he should have been arrested and brought to trial.

I don't buy that. The US has more or less always stated that when they found Bin Laden, they would kill him. They've never made a secret about that, so why some journalists are surprised by what happened beats me.

Like millions of others, I watched in horror as 9/11 unfolded. It was probably the worst thing I have ever witnessed in my life, albeit on a TV screen. I have been to Ground Zero, and the scale of what happened that day is shocking.

I find it hard to believe that anybody can be concerned about the human rights of a man who was responsible for so much carnage.

We may not make a song and dance about it, but I think the vast majority here think your chaps did an excellent job.

And we're thankful for that.

Regards

Skoob.

All are happy about the outcome where I live although there were no celebrations as such.

LG

Skoob, Mon ami en toutes choses littéraire,
I know that. Truly. "Amis jusqu'à la mort"

It's the negative world press frenzy that overwhelms.

Thanks Skoob.

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Quote: Skoob1999

I read this morning that some Americans are confused as to why people in Europe weren't out celebrating in the streets.

I can't really explain that, it just didn't seem like the thing to do, but I can assure you that millions of Europeans are quietly satisfied that your guys got Osama.

Perhaps people are worried about retaliation from Al Qaeda.

Another thing I heard is that in some quarters this event has been described as a cold blooded execution. Some say that he should have been arrested and brought to trial.

I don't buy that. The US has more or less always stated that when they found Bin Laden, they would kill him. They've never made a secret about that, so why some journalists are surprised by what happened beats me.

Like millions of others, I watched in horror as 9/11 unfolded. It was probably the worst thing I have ever witnessed in my life, albeit on a TV screen. I have been to Ground Zero, and the scale of what happened that day is shocking.

I find it hard to believe that anybody can be concerned about the human rights of a man who was responsible for so much carnage.

We may not make a song and dance about it, but I think the vast majority here think your chaps did an excellent job.

And we're thankful for that.

Regards

Skoob.

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I'm very much with Skoob on congratulating the yanks

And I don't believe street celebrations are any sign of an Atlantic culture divide.

What's interesting here is that 9/11 was an attack on mainland America. Something that simply does not and was never meant to happen.

Sure there was Pearl Harbour. But that was a military base. And sure, America suffered enormous casualties in the war.

Whereas London, Coventry and most of southern England was bombed to smithereens.

We had the Blitz. So we sort of understand this territory.

Brits are a proud, stoic and phlegmatic people, it's true.

But remember, we celebrated VE Day. Like mad we did.

Maybe you've just had your own 9/11 Day..

Unable to defeat this veiled obscenity we call 'terrorism', perhaps the killing of Osama bin Laden is/was symbolic..

providing a focus for a perfectly normal outpouring of relief..

Whatever.. it's as near as anyone's going to get to a 'victory'..

Because watch out everyone.

This aint finished..

Of course it isn't finished.

There will be repercussions. I think we all realise that.

There would have been many more attacks, both here and in the US were in not for alert security services on both sides of the pond.

Pakistan and India have suffered, and, which seems to be frequently overlooked - the Madrid atrocity. Which would have been much worse than it was, had it gone to plan.

There have also been attacks in Africa and Egypt.

Without doubt, people will be plotting even as I type this.

But they won't stop me personally from going about my daily business. We've lived with terror threats for years here, maybe that's why the reaction wasn't as jubilant.

Killing Bin Laden isn't really a victory, because his acolytes will continue regardless, probably fuelled by righteous indignation.

One thing it will do is to bring some consolation to those affected by Al Qaeda outrages across the world, and show these people that there really is no hiding place.

I saw no signs of gloating among Obama's entourage, just the recognition that something had to be done.

It was. And done very well.

The world can't be a poorer place because of the loss of that man.

Respectfully

Skoob.

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Quote: Morse

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Quote: P.M. Wortham

Apparently this group of half-wit, incompetent mission specialists, and assasins can't seem to do anything right.

Small wonder. Perhaps you are not aware that when SEAL Team Six was being formed in 1980, Great Britain's Special Boat Squadron (SBS) took part in the joint training of this specialized group because of their experience.

Another tidbit: Commander Dick Marcinko, the units first Commanding Officer who was chosen to form this team, was court martialed for taking money under the table and did two years in Leavenworth Federal Prison.

He was a complete loon.

I guess any discomfort there has been at his death from this side of the pond is because of the endemic mis/disinformation that usually comes from military/governmental/police sources immediately following any operational incident.

In the UK this was demonstrated by the first (totally untrue) reports and details that came from police following the killing of an innocent man, Jean Charles de Menezes, by the police at Stockwell tube station in 2005.

In Bin Laden's case it was the initial reports that he had been using a woman as a human shield and that he was armed. Neither of which appears to be true.

This need to make events and characters brave / cowardly, black and white / good and evil by the authorities makes people doubt what the real facts were /are.

Apart from this, I think we in the UK have adopted a more low-key, but nevertheless heartfelt reaction to Bin Laden's demise.

An attitude beautifully encapsulated by a great American...

"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure"

(Mark Twain)

Bang on Pin..

Enjoyed reading that one..